CH. 4: DAVE HARTMAN, MENTOR

Dear Reader:

I am happy to report that Dave Hartman has been feeling much better, even with a bounce in his step, according to his wife Joanie.
She attributes it to these stories, and I am truly humbled. Not only does he enjoy reliving our adventures, she says, but he is most delighted to share them with his daughters, who are fascinated to learn about their father’s mechanical ingenuity and how appreciated he has been by his colleagues and friends.

I am overjoyed that in my attempt to simply honor my best friend of forty-eight years, it has restored Dave’s spirit for life and passion for tinkering. It has been cathartic for me as well. I have learned many wonderful things from Dave over the years, and now he’s taught me something new, something profound: the importance of sharing memories with an old friend; it’s heartwarming for everyone.

I deeply appreciate your coming along for the ride as well, dear reader. (How do you like riding in a Model A?) Here’s the next chapter about my mentor, Dave Hartman…

By Joe Rinaudo

Dave Hartman

CHAPTER 1  CHAPTER 2  CHAPTER 3

Chapter 4

So here I am standing in front of the guy who I have been looking to find for several years (and I can only hope who might be willing to help me with my Fotoplayer restoration). It also amazed me that he was the same person that Wes Cooper has been telling me about for the last several years!

After Wes just walked away and left me standing there, I said something like: “Hi Dave, remember me? I’m the guy who showed the silent movie at your Photoplayer demonstration for Mr. Nethercutt at Carty Piano several years ago.” When I told him that I had purchased an American Fotoplayer, Dave said: “So, you bought an F.F.?” When I inquired what he meant by an F.F. Dave said: “a F….ing Fotoplayer! Why on earth would you want one of those contraptions?” I told him that I collected silent movies and wanted something to play along with them that would give the authentic sound. Since I grew up with a player piano, an American Fotoplayer is a natural fit as it plays standard 88 note piano rolls. I went on to say that when I heard the J.P. Seeburg Photoplayer he had restored, it was a life changing experience for me. Dave said: “You sure are a cheap date!” (Apparently, I was just blessed with one of Dave’s nuggets of wit.)

Fotoplayer prior to restoration
1974 Polaroid of Joe’s new (48 years old, actually) Style 20 Fotoplayer, unrestored, in Mr. Barns’ garage, Orange County, California, on the day Joe purchased it. This is the main player and piano unit with all the keys, pedals, buttons, levers, pull cords and (eventually) rubber bulb for the taxi horn.
Fotoplayer prior to restoration
A 21-year-old Joe Rinaudo and his new toy. This is the side chest which houses most of the instruments and sound effects. Photo by friend Don Telford.

I told Dave that I had purchased the Fotoplayer in unrestored condition and I was having some problems in making it play properly. He asked what my current problem was. I told him that the valve chest that runs the pipe organ was firing two notes off at the same time, making two pipes speak when only one note is played on the piano. Dave just smiled and said (the magic words) “why don’t you bring the valve chest by my shop some time and let me take a look at it.” I couldn’t believe what I was hearing and asked where he lived. I found out he was only 11 miles from my house — a short distance considering the help and knowledge I might gain from this meeting!

Dave introduced me to his wife, Jennifer, and his new born daughter, Cordie. I remember seeing Jennifer (as she was leaving) in the parking lot at Carty Piano driving a Model A Ford. I had stopped her to look at the car, as I also have a Model A. I had no idea that this was Dave’s wife and that Dave was also a Model A enthusiast!

Dave asked me where I had found my Fotoplayer. I told him that I had purchased it from a man (originally from Canada) by the name of Charlie Barns who now lived in Orange County California. As the story goes, an old theater in Saskatchewan, Canada was being demolished and this Fotoplayer was found sealed up under the stage in very nice original condition. Nobody knew what it was. So, it was put into storage. When an article appeared in a local Canadian newspaper about this “King Tut” find, relatives (in Canada) of Charlie Barns sent him the article. Charlie (who liked old automatic pianos) went up there and bought it. When his wife saw the size of it and how much restoration it required, she said “not in my house” and rather firmly “suggested” that he sell it!

After hearing this story, Dave explained that some of my problems may be due to the fact that the Fotoplayer was brought down from a wet climate where it has lived since the 1920’s in Canada to a dry California one, which can cause the shrinking of wooden parts and cracks to form. This will have to be checked out, he said.

I found out much later that my Fotoplayer was made in 1926. This was the last year of manufacture of Fotoplayers. It was made in the Robert Morton Pipe Organ factory in Van Nuys, California, which was a subsidiary of The American Photoplayer company. It was shipped up to Saskatchewan, Canada and only used for about four years. When sound came to the movies in 1929, instead of removing it, the stage was extended over the Fotoplayer to accommodate the new bigger screen with speakers. This explains the nice original condition of my machine.

Also, as mentioned in a previous chapter, there are two ways that I have been spelling the word “Photoplayer.” When speaking of Photoplayers in general or generic terms the correct spelling is Photoplayer. Such was the case when describing the Nethercutt Photoplayer which was made by the J.P. Seeburg Piano Company. When speaking of a  Photoplayer made by the American Photoplayer Company, it is spelled Fotoplayer as this is the trademark for that company.

Well, the big day came. I drove the Fotoplayer valve chest over to Dave’s shop. What he discovered, and my reaction to this, would set me on an interesting and complicated path of total restoration!

To be continued…

Do You Have
EXPERTISE in NON-PROFITS?

Joe Rinaudo, founder of Silent Cinema Society, is currently forming a non-profit which he calls SCAT —Silent Cinema Art and Technology — to fund the restoration and preservation of the actual machines and media of the silent era.

Advice and suggestions in the area of non-profits are most welcome. Contact Joe Rinaudo here.

Through Silent Cinema Society, which is comprised of you, the fans and supporters of silent cinema, Joe will continue to enlighten and entertain with The Newsreel newsletter; this Silent Cinema Society website; and hopefully soon, live shows where audiences are once again able to wear big hats that block the screen. SCAT, the non-profit, will also support Silent Cinema Society so that information and entertainment will continue to be presented to you, silent cinema fans. Lady, will you please take off that big hat!

CH. 3: DAVE HARTMAN, MENTOR

By Joe Rinaudo

Continued: The story of my best friend and mentor, Dave Hartman (who has been ill), which brings to mind all of the wonderful things that I have learned from him over our forty-eight year friendship…Dave Hartman

CHAPTER 1  CHAPTER 2

Chapter 3

Now the year is 1974 and I have purchased a style 20 American Fotoplayer. So, at 21 years of age, one of my worst fears had come true: that a Fotoplayer is no player piano when it comes to rebuilding. Since I have dabbled in rebuilding a player piano, I had now come to the sobering realization that I am not up to the task to tackle the complete rebuild of a Fotoplayer. These contraptions are very complex items indeed. So (in desperation) I contacted Mr. Dick Carty at Carty Piano to see if he could help in the rebuild. Dick gave me the cost to rebuild the player stack (the complex mechanism that plays the piano from the piano roll) and the two wind motors (one for the upper spool box and one for the lower). As I recall, this was more money than I could afford. So, Dick says “Give me some money and an old radio. I love old wooden radios!” I had a very nice wooden radio from the 1930’s that belonged to my grandfather. So, the deal was set! Yes, Dick Carty was a great business man and cared about the up and coming young “broke” collector!

A 21-year-old Joe Rinaudo and his new toy. Photo by his friend Don Telford, circa 1973.

When I asked where was the big guy “Dave” (who had restored the Nethercutt Photoplayer years earlier), Dick said that Dave’s superior skills were required by Carty Piano for the restoration of the more complex orchestrions in the Nethercutt Museum collection. Dick went on to say that when the Nethercutt Museum contract was over Dave had left for greener pastures.  

By the way, some of you may have noticed the two ways that I have been spelling the word “Photoplayer.” When speaking of Photoplayers in general or generic terms the correct spelling is Photoplayer. Such was the case when describing the Nethercutt Photoplayer which was made by the J.P. Seeburg Piano Company. When speaking of a  Photoplayer made by the American Photoplayer Company, it is spelled Fotoplayer as this is the trademark for that Company only (American Photoplayer Company). I hope that this is now clear as mud!

Now the year is 1975. I am struggling on to try and restore the Fotoplayer on my own. Reading books and gleaning tidbits of information from various collectors proved to be a daunting and insurmountable task!

At this time I was going to junior college and working part time for minimum wage at a hospital in the food service department. To make ends meet I had been driving my first car that I got for $525.00 when I was in high school. A 1929 Ford Model A Coupe. It was as cheap to run as a Volkswagen and very easy to work on. A life-long friend of my father, Mr. Wes Cooper (who was a living legend in the hot rod circles), had built some of the fastest four-cylinder engines using modern day technology but with authentic period parts. He held the land speed record in the flat head four-cylinder class. He and my dad had been friends since first grade and both worked together at the Winfield Carburetor factory in the 1930s.  It was my good fortune in more than one way (as I would soon find out) that he was helping and teaching me on how to maintain an original Model A engine. Or as he called it “That old turd!”  He completely rebuilt my original Model A engine for $100.00!

All of the times that I was at his shop he would ask how the Fotoplayer was coming. When I would tell him of my latest Mount Everest “Fotoplayer” climb, he would say “I have to introduce you to this guy who used to bring his Model A over. He can help you with your problems as he understands how these things work.” I would always dismiss this as idle chatter and thought nothing of it.

In July of 1975 I was at the Long Beach Model T swap meet. As I was searching for that elusive Model A part for my car, who should I come across but Wes Cooper!  He had a stand there selling his souped-up engines and related parts. Without saying a word, he grabbed my hand and led me over to a large tent where a lady was nursing a 9 month-old baby girl. Wes pointed to a man seated next to the lady and said “There! This is the guy I have telling you about. You know, the guy who can help you with your Fotoplayer!” When I got a good look at the man, I realized that the guy that Wes had been telling me about for years was the big guy from Carty Piano — DAVE!

To be continued…

— ANNOUNCEMENT —

Joe Rinaudo, founder of Silent Cinema Society, is currently forming a non-profit which he calls SCAT —Silent Cinema Art and Technology — to fund the restoration and preservation of the actual machines and media of the silent era.

Advice and suggestions in the area of non-profits are most welcome. Contact Joe Rinaudo here.

Through Silent Cinema Society, which is comprised of you, the fans and supporters of silent cinema, Joe will continue to enlighten and entertain with The Newsreel newsletter;  this Silent Cinema Society website; and hopefully soon, live shows where audiences are once again able to wear big hats that block the screen.

CH. 2: DAVE HARTMAN, MENTOR

By Joe Rinaudo
Edited by Wendy Greene

Continued: The story of my best friend and mentor, Dave Hartman (who has been ill), which brings to mind all of the wonderful things that I have learned from him over our forty-eight year friendship…

Dave Hartman

CHAPTER 1

Chapter 2

So now the big moment arrives, with Dick Carty running all over, making sure everything  and everyone is in place. Mr. J.B. Nethercutt arrives with his entourage. A very nervous and stressed Dick Carty greets them. There were about eight people with a very handsome and well dressed man who resembles Caesar Romero. This must be J.B. Nethercutt! (J.B. was the founder and CEO of Merle Norman Cosmetics. He aquired one of the finest antique automobile collections in the world and was an enthusiast of automated musical instruments. Visit NethercuttCollection.org.)

Dave is asked to show Mr. Nethercutt the Photoplayer. Now with his Pendelton flapping and his new Van’s tennis shoes gleaming, Dave proceeds to take off all of the front and rear covers of the Photoplayer. A very polite and quiet Mr. Nethercutt follows Dave around the Photoplayer, looking at all of Dave’s beautiful work. Now I see Carty watching Dave’s every move with the hope that some of those famous nuggets of wisdom and humor from Dave might not be misunderstood. As it turns out if there were any nuggets they were well received by Mr. Nethercutt.

Dave working on The Popper orchestrion

Dave Hartman inspecting the “Popper,” one of the largest Orchestrions in the Nethercutt Collection.

Instead of going over to talk to Carty I see Mr. Nethercutt coming over to the projector to talk to me! I now notice the continued panic on Carty’s face. Mr. Nethercutt asked what type of projector I was using. I told him that it was an R.C.A. He then asked where did I get my film. I now notice a very worried-looking Carty making hand jesters to me which seemed like “cut it short!” Ignoring poor Carty, I told Mr. Nethercutt that I buy my 16mm prints from Blackhawk Films. I asked how he was going to use the Photoplayer. Now Carty is waving his hands wildly! Mr. Nethercutt said that he was building a Museum and it will have a silent movie theater in it and would I like to come and see it when it opens? I said “YES!” I then suggested that Mr. Carty was wanting to talk to him. With that he left to talk to a very relieved Carty. 

As it turned out. I did go to the Museum and got a regular guided tour by Roger Morrison, the new curator of the Nethercutt Museum. I asked Roger if we will get to see the silent film theater and the Photoplayer.  Roger told me no, that the theater was not on the tour, as it was not to be seen by the general public. Roger then made an announcement that Mr. Nethercutt will be greeting us from that door across the room. The door opens and out steps Mr. Nethercutt and waves to a thankful applause from my fellow tourists. Roger said that Mr. Nethercutt is a very busy man and had to get back to a meeting. As he was turning to leave (being young and stupid) I ran across the room to him and introduced myself as the projectionist from the Photoplayer demonstration a few years back at Carty Piano. I asked if we might see the Photoplayer.  Mr. Nethercutt just smiled and bowed. As Roger ran up to us I realized that I might not have followed the correct procedure. Rather embarrassed, I took my place back across the room with the other tourists. Roger then made an announcement. As per Mr. Nethercutt’s special request  we would be seeing the silent movie theater and get a demonstration of the newly restored Photoplayer—something that the other tours will never see!   I said (under my breath) “Thank you Mr. Nethercutt!”  

Later we got to see all of the beautiful mechanical musical instruments that Dave Hartman and the gang at Carty piano had restored so wonderfully. What a legacy Dave Hartman and Carty piano have left behind! 

Little did I know that this guy Dave would eventually come back into my life and change it in a way that I could have never imagined.

To be continued…


Press to leave a comment.


— ANNOUNCEMENT —

Joe Rinaudo, founder of Silent Cinema Society, is currently forming a non-profit which he calls SCAT —Silent Cinema Art and Technology — to fund the restoration and preservation of the actual machines and media of the silent era.

Advice and suggestions in the area of non-profits are most welcome. Contact Joe Rinaudo here.

Through Silent Cinema Society, which is comprised of you, the fans and supporters of silent cinema, Joe will continue to enlighten and entertain with The Newsreel newsletter;  this Silent Cinema Society website; and hopefully soon, live shows where audiences are once again able to wear big hats that block the screen.

Preserving Silent Cinema Art and Technology